Monday, January 22, 2007

[draconian measures] reasonable inferences or not

This blog has no time for surmise, which it defines as uninformed speculation. On the other hand, laying out evidence on the table, all of it, that is and drawing a conclusion from it - that is something else again. That is detective work.

There are different grim things going on in Britain right now and they are reflected in all the western nations. For every link in this post, one could be found about the US, for example.

What sort of things? The Guardian suggests we're sliding into a police state, for a start. Then there is the question of which particular definition of 'terrorist' is accepted, so the state forces can concentrate on that alone. The EU has acted to implement sanctions to streamline police procedures across Europe and give wider powers. Anti-terrorism measures are on the agenda, including vast diminishment of citizens' freedom to move.

There are pro-active moves towards preparing citizens for an emergency situation and the putting of the countries onto an emergency [read 'war' ] footing. Emergency powers and the adoption of temporary martial law is now in the process of implementation. Military exercises are now being carried out, one for the start of this February.

Police are to buy gas masks. These can be bought here. It goes on and on. On January 15th, Tony Blair tried to institute phone tapping on fellow MPs.

Why? For what purpose? Why such draconian measures and why at this time? Here was a society largely at peace and increasingly tolerant of other cultures, Despite the dumbing down and chav-producing dismantling of education, successfully producing a nation of bestial, ignorant, young, huggable, zombie ASBOs [future cannon fodder], why the pro-active moves to implement legislation and to put society onto an emergency footing?

One of the best articles I've read on 7/7, because it gives MSM links to everything claimed and finishes with a constructed 7/7 timeline, based on these links, is here.

The conclusion is that Tony Blair was either 1] quite ill-informed and unaware of clear prior knowledge or 2] he was in on it. Add to this his quite uncanny propensity to be both away from his desk and simultaneously within an hour's flight of 7/7 and out of the country on holiday during the subsequent thwarted simultaneous attacks and one is left with the detective's classic dilemma:

Can't be absolutely proven but sufficient indicators exist as to warrant suspicion and close scrutiny of the man's subsequent actions.

I was asked the question in the comments sections as to what I meant by 'the Big One in 2012'. I'd like to answer that by a series of questions: 1] what exactly do they feel sure is going to happen - another terrorist attack? Why so sure? 2] after all the measures linked to above have been passed, then what would be the government reaction to any 'terrorist' atrocity, vis a vis counter-measures after the event? 3] by the way, 7/7 occurred one day after what major event? 4] what major event for Britain is coming up in 2012, around the time of the election?

You might label the inference in these questions 'surmise'. I'd prefer to label it a fair and reasonable conclusion, given all which was presented in this post and having read every word at the end of each link.

9 comments:

  1. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you? Are you saying that the London Olympics will become the stage for the "End of the World" or "One World" Totalitarian government?

    Certainly 2012 being the end of the Mayan calendar may be a clue and the increasing security measures across Europe and in the US with their consistent chipping-away at our democratic freedoms does suggest that they are preparing for some monumental upheaval or disaster, however I don't buy the terrorist angle. Terrorism, while being bad does not really mean the end of our freedoms - our own governments are orchestrating that and don't really need the help of the terrorists.

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  2. Wolfie, as you say, something is definitely coming and as you also say, you don't buy the terrorism thing and nor do I.

    I'm going to respond further to you as a post now.

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  3. Scary stuff. We all sit comfortable, I think, figuring that basic things in our world will never change. But they very easily could for the worse unfortunately. No one can scoff and guarentee them not.

    tea
    xo

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  4. To what election in 2012 do you refer, James? I'd be very surprised if we were to have a General Election that year -- it would be way off the normal electoral cycle.

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  5. 1997 (MPs) 1 May 1997 Tony Blair Labour 179
    2001 (MPs) 7 June 2001 Tony Blair Labour 167
    2005 (MPs) 5 May 2005 Tony Blair Labour 66

    Notsaussure - as you can see, it hasn't followed the normal pattern under Tony Blair. Many think it will be in 2008. In that situation, 2012 or 2013 are not out of the question for the following one.

    Plus, who says it will be a 'UK' election anyway? What about the English Parliament, if it suits the EU's book? Or even the final joining with the EU?

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  6. Just another little snippet from Wiki:

    It is possible that it may be held on 11 June 2009 in order to coincide with elections to the European Parliament; combining elections dates is a common practice in the UK with the intention of reducing costs and increasing turnout. In England, the elections for County Councils are on a four-year cycle and are set for 2009. Local elections are also due in Northern Ireland in 2009, although this is subject to the Northern Ireland Review of Public Administration. This would be keeping in line both with the recent practice for four-year terms, and the convention of holding parliamentary elections on a Thursday. In November 2006 it was reported that Labour Party activists were being warned to prepare for a general election as early as 2008.

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  7. Let's not worry about completely hypothetical elections to hypothetical bodies like an English Parliament for the time being and concentrate on General Elections.

    I agree that it's wholly possible that we could have a UK General Election in 2012; my only point is that it would be way off the normal cycle, particularly if we have -- for the reasons advanced in the Wiki article you quote -- one in June 2009. Indeed, the fact of the Olympics seems to me a powerful argument against betting on a 2012 date, precisely because everyone's going to be preoccupied with them and not going to want to worry about a GE as well.

    Yes, I'm sure Labour's strategists will have various possible dates pencilled in for the next GE, but nothing's going to be decided until a lot nearer the time, not least because they'll want to pick a time most advantageous to them. And at the moment they'll have no more idea about the date of the GE after that than does anyone else.

    I just don't see that you can use something so speculative as evidence for your theory one way or the other.

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  8. Let's hope a General Election is relevant in 2012. Or will we be just a pathetic outcrop of the EUssr?

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  9. Jeemy, that remains to be seen.

    Notsaussure, you're right of course and my 'theory' as you put it is only that something nasty is in the pipeline, which the evidence does seem to indicate. Of course I don't insist on the election - it was only a peripheral aspect of the restructuring of the society which is happening. My 'theory' concerns the latter and the way the London Olympics would be used in the scheme of things to introduce this legislation or that.

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