Sunday, August 02, 2009

[sunday quiz] bumper edition today


Just identify who said these and where:

1 And we not only saved the world … er … saved the banks and led the way way … saved the banks …

2 It's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them ...

3 Paul Martin commits to positions like Britney Spears commits to marriage.

4 This gap between words and facts makes me very angry. I will not calm down. I have not lost my nerve - I have a lot of sang froid.

5 I've always wanted to be a spy, and frankly I'm a little surprised that British intelligence has never approached me.

6 We lied in the morning, we lied in the evening. We accomplished nothing.

7 If you stay here much longer, you'll all be slitty-eyed.

Answers

Gordon Brown in Parliament, Obama in San Francisco, Stephen Harper announcing leadership candidacy, Segie in The Debate, Elizabeth Hurley [who knows where], Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany in Hungary, Phil the Greek in China – to British students

By the way, you DO recognize the man in the sailor hat and the girl, don't you?

[trekkies meet python] well synched

Catch these two - they'd have to win the #Silly Week prize.

[proms] john wilson

Damn, so long out of the country, I'd forgotten the Proms. Thanks, John.

[bless you my child] ups and downs of the ecumenical life



When I taught at an orthodox Jewish school, the most impressive thing I saw was a young[ish] Rabbi, Stephen Link, telling Jewish jokes and not sanitized versions either. That was pretty impressive and the fact that he was secure in his Judaism was obviously at the base of that.

There are two people, outside my family, I've tried to model myself on. One was an excellent supervising teacher when I was a student teacher I tried in vain to emulate all my teaching life and the other was Stephen. He showed me [and many others, I'd dare say] that one's faith need not be fanatical. In fact, if it is, then it's a total turn-off, even for the faithful.

If Jehovah's Witnesses come to my gate, I run and hide. If someone at an airport, wearing saffron, offers me a flower and then tries to slug me for money, then I do what Captain Rex Kramer does in Airport - slug him back. Cults and fanatics are the bane of any cause.

Fire and brimstone preachers are just as much the enemy as any atheist and an atheist is not an enemy anyway - he's just someone at a different point along the path. My Jewish headmistress at the time told me, in my initial interview after getting the post, that she was not trying to convert me, nor would anyone else. "We have enough Jews as it is," she said.

On the other hand, she spoke of respect for their synagogue and wearing a head covering in there, amongst other things. Hey - it's their place, their community. When in Rome, you know. Many of us have been in a mosque and done similar or a Buddhist temple in Thailand and lit a candle.

Stuart A, of Indecent Left
, once told me [in the thick of a Christian/Atheist debate], that I was a "religious tourist". That's when I started to like the guy and think out what the hell I was doing and believing.

Dave Allen is a great comedian - he shows the ludicrousness of the High Church, its rituals and prohibitive haranguing, just as Blake did [another favourite of mine]. As a "practising atheist", Dave Allen misses the whole point though of the Christian community at ground level, of which the previous generation was au fait. Both my mother and aunty were mothercraft nurses and nobody could have called them religious and yet they embodied the Christian ideal, in my eyes, through the selflessness and support they gave many people, many kids.

And I tell you what - at my mother's funeral, some of those kids [now grown up] told stories of her I'd never known. She was no saint by any stretch but she was a saint, if you see what I mean.

That's what Buddhists should be about and what Christians should be about too - not all this Torquemada and Religious Right stuff.

Why shouldn't I laugh at the ridiculous aspects that the so-called Church fathers tell me I should be embracing? If G-d doesn't have a sense of humour, then why did he give us one? If he didn't want us to be get animal with our wives, then why did he make our wives so damned alluring [except at the breakfast table]? If we shouldn't enjoy a wine or a whisky, why did JC say we should mix a little wine in with our water? Why shouldn't we laugh at a bawdy joke and tell one or eight?

The message I get is that most things are fine if not taken to excess and the occasional excess is no bad thing either. Just don't become a slave to anything or anyone, that's all. Try to do right. What's wrong with that?

[wicca, witchcraft and satanism] macavity's not there


OK, so let's get on with angering half my readers.


Gavin and Yvonne Frost's book The Witches Bible states:

When a child develops to a stage where the physical attributes of reproduction are present, he can become a full member of the coven. The parents relinquish the spiritual guidance of the children to the coven, and warn them that temporal authority will also soon be outside the family.

It is hoped by Wicca that the first full sexual experience will take place in the plesant [sic] surroundings of the coven and that the spiritual as well as the physical aspects of the experience will lead the child to a complete life.

The physical attributes of male and female virginity are destroyed at the youngest possible age, either by the mother or by a doctor. In the female case, the hymen is painlessly broken surgically. In the male case, the mother makes absolutely sure that the foreskin can be drawn fully back by cutting the underside attachment membrane.

At the last sabbat or eshbat before the initiation, the female novice is given the sacred phallus and the instruction sheet in Table 5 so that she can learn to insert and remove the phallus quickly and comfortably. She is also taught how she should lie and what she should do during the initiation ceremony.

You have been entrusted with two phali [sic]; these are in your care until your initiation. ...you have three weeks to prepare your muscles for introitus. Your father or your sponsor will help you if you have any difficulties or pain.

Nice.

Wiki says Gavin Frost founded the Church and School of Wicca with his wife Yvonne Frost in 1968, and he is currently the Archbishop of the Church of Wicca and a director of the School of Wicca.

Despite the original publication of The Witches Bible and the continued publication as A Good Witches Bible, the Frosts have received much support from pagan leaders, festivals, and organizations:

1. Isaac Bonewits – Helped create the website which promotes The Good Witches Bible
2. Janet Farrar and Stewart Farrar – Friends for decades according to a video made by the Farrars and Frosts.
3. Margot Adler – Worked on a video project with the Frosts.


You may meet him in a by-street, you may see him in the square--
But when a crime's discovered, then Macavity's not there!


On investigating Wicca, a surprising phenomenon keeps repeating itself. Not unlike Macavity, the mystery cat, Wiccans seem to be ''in the area of'' or "having similar elements to" or "being accused of connections with" so many bizarre and perverse happenings but in each and every one - Wiccans are not guilty and it is only hateful people who are prejudiced against them who are really to blame. People like Christians.

Consider Atlanta, where a series of murders of children took place in 1979-80. The Klan was blamed but the manner of the deaths from asphyxiation gave it a sexual motif. Naturally, the Wiccans were not involved.

However:

Atlanta has long been an occult center. Not only had the Process-Foundation Faith cult opened a chapter there, but there was a home-grown Wicca network run by a witch who called herself Lady Santana, and one Lord Merlin. Lady Santana was also known as Samantha Lerman. Lady Santana's Ravenwood Church of Wicca was granted tax exempt status in the State of Georgia.

There is also another witchcraft coven operating openly there, known as The Avalon Center. It is run by a woman styling herself as Lady Galadriel, High Priestess of the Grove of the Unicorn. The Atlanta Wicca Church changed its name to the Church of the Old Religion in 1979, following the death of a 15-year-old girl.

Here is another case where the Wiccans were totally innocent:

A Santa Maria couple who used the Wiccan religion to lure a teenage girl into having sex was sentenced Thursday. The victim's aunt says the teenage girl met the couple through family friends, who gained her trust through Wicca and drugs.

However, the defence attorney of the Wiccans was quick to state:

"Wicca is not a demon worshiping cult. It's pantheistic, and it was really a secondary issue."

The need to deny again. They claim no connection with Christianity and yet:

In the United States, WICCA's outstanding sponsor is the New York Anglican (Episcopal) diocese, under Bishop Paul Moore. Officially, New York's Anglican Cathedral of St. John the Divine has promoted the spread of WICCA witchery through its Lindisfarne center. The late Gregory Bateson conducted such an operation out of the Lindisfarne center during the 1970s.

The Book of Thoth runs a spirited defence of Wicca here. You can read about Thoth here. Aleister Crowley's updated version is used for Tarot cards. Crowley was a member of The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (or, more commonly, the Golden Dawn), a magical order founded in Great Britain during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, which practiced theurgy and spiritual development.

Wicca has been one of the largest single influences on 20th-century Western occultism. Concepts of magic and ritual at the center of contemporary traditions, such as Wicca and Thelema, were inspired by the Golden Dawn. The three founders, William Robert Woodman, William Wynn Westcott, and Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers were Freemasons and members of Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia.

Crowley himself is generally regarded as steeped in satanism, without technically being one. In his penultimate year, 1946, a mutual friend 'Arnold Crowther' introduced Crowley to 'Gerald B. Gardner'. His meetings with Gardner would later lead to controversy over the authenticity of Gardner’s original 'Book of Shadows'.

Wiki says Gardner:

… wrote some of the definitive texts for the religion of Wicca, which he was instrumental in bringing to public attention through his 1954 book, Witchcraft Today … he has sometimes been referred to as "the father of Wicca".

However, Wicca, which promotes itself as a religion of love and peace, is never actually part of the dark doings of satanism.

Patricia Baird-Windle, founder and executive director of Aware Woman Center for Choice, "portrayed by Rolling Stone as one of the most persecuted women in America … when asked what her religion was … was alleged to have remarked: "My religion is a holy ritual of child sacrifice." "

AWCC has affiliations with the Wiccan Religious Cooperative of Florida and one group working closely with WRCF is the Church of the Iron Oak. They meet weekly for "Wiccan Ways," a teaching seminar at 1220 East Prospect Street, Melbourne. Although witches claim not to believe in the Christian concept of Satan, they do worship "the European Pagan Horned God, who has been depicted as Pan....

Again, nothing to do with satanism but only having "similarities".

Laurie Cabot [a major Wiccan] concurs with the rise of feminist activism within Wiccan covens that worship the Goddess Diana:

"In Dianic covens great emphasis is placed on the Goddess and the role of priestesses. Covens and organizations are matrifocal and center around women's issues. The current women's movement has inspired much of the political activism that some covens engage in.... radical feminism, including lesbianism, has found a place in Dianic covens...."

Montague Summers, Geography of Witchcraft (University Books, New Hyde Park, New York, 1965), wrote of the reign of Louis XIV, [when] witch trials were held in France which exposed a vast network of abortion services and the trafficking of new-borns used for sacrifices in the Sabbats of a High Priestess named la Voisin:

"The child was held over the altar, a sharp gash across the neck, a stifled cry, and warm drops fell into the chalice.... The corpse was handed to la Voisin, who flung it callously into an oven fashioned for that purpose which glowed white hot in its fierceness.

It was proved that regular traffic had been carried on for years with beggar women and the lowest prostitutes, who sold their children for this purpose. At her trial la Voisin confessed that no less than 2,500 babies had been disposed of in this manner...."

Wicca is never responsible for killings and sacrifices. They tell us this. They just happen to be around when it goes on at times, as in the Harris murders:

Harris, who told police he was responsible for killing Kendra Suing, 10, and Alysha Suing, 8, on Jan. 6, 2008, has pleaded not guilty to two charges of first-degree murder and is using an insanity defense. He told police the day of the killings that the girls died while he was casting a spell that "had gone bad."

The jury heard testimony from Sherry Clark of Oro Grande, Calif., about Harris' childhood, including that he was hospitalized three times after suicide attempts. Clark testified that Harris frequently went to her house when he ran away from home. She told the jury Harris' mother was verbally abusive to her son as well as to Clark herself and others, screaming obscenities and telling Clark, a practicing Wiccan, that she would go to hell.

However, everyone can rest easy because an "expert" says Wicca is innocent:

Also testifying for the defense, Helen Berger, a sociology professor at West Chester University in Pennsylvania, explained something of Wicca, satanism and paganism and said Wicca is not about violence and killing. She said Wiccans believe that anything they do, good or bad, comes back to them threefold.

Aidan Kelly's book Crafting the Art of Magic (pp.21-22, 25-26, and 176) makes the point that Wicca is not satanism but the two do have common elements.

Aradia's Gospel of the Witches (originally published in 1899 A.D.), one of Wicca's major sources, stated:

Diana greatly loved her brother Lucifer, the god of the Sun and of the Moon, the god of Light, who was so proud of his beauty, and who for his pride was driven from Paradise.

Another passage says:

And thou shalt teach the art of poisoning,
Of poisoning those who are great lords of all;
Yea, thou shalt make them die in their palaces;
And thou shalt bind the oppressor's soul (with power);
And when ye find a peasant who is rich,
Then ye shall teach the witch, your pupil, how
To ruin all his crops with tempests dire,
With lightning and with thunder (terrible),
And the hail and wind....

You get the idea.

Gnosticism had the peculiarity of inverting God and the devil, making God the bad guy, Lucifer the good guy. Wiccans, though claiming not to be gnostic, nevertheless have this, from Aradia:

And when the priests or the nobility
Shall say to you that you should put your faith
In the Father, Son, and Mary, then reply:
Your God, the Father, and Maria are
Three devils....For the true God the Father is not yours.

Wiccanism appears to be an eclectic attempt to emulate the pre-Christian gods and practices or rather, to reassert them in an era of what they perceive as waning Christian influence. An example is the worship of Hecate by some Wiccans, often referred to as the Left Path, which is Luciferian double speak for devil worshippers.

More on the Left Hand [or path]:


Wiccans spend much time having to defend themselves from scurrilous and baseless charges, from all sides, of being devil worshippers which, if so, brings in child sacrifices, black masses and all the rest of it. To be charitable, if the Wiccan contention is accepted, then how do they explain the Watchers?

The Watchers are briefly mentioned in Genesis Chapter 6, and have been a source of controversy for many years. Gen 6:4:

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

Al Manning's Helping Yourself with White Witchcraft refers to Azazel. Paul Huson, in Mastering Witchcraft, p12, wrote that Azael was “one of the modern witch’s gods” and yet Azazael is considered demonic by both Jews and Christians.

The two religions claiming that Azazel is not evil are Wicca and satanism. Coincidence, of course. They say the Watchers are good.

Full stop. Period. End of discussion.

There seems to be an awful lot of notice taken, by Wicca, of the negative elements of Judaism and Christianity. For a religion which predates Christianity, why would this be?

Diane Vera is a self-confessed satanist. It's interesting, for the moment, to look at the difference between the two religions, not from the Wiccan side but now from her side. She states:

Wicca as we now know it is derived from 19th-century occult philosophy -- including literary Satanic philosophy, among others -- projected onto a non-Christian Goddess and God, plus some de-Christianized Golden Dawn style ceremonial magick, plus assorted turn-of-the-century British folklore, more recently re-shaped by neo-Pagan scholarship and by modern feminist and ecological concerns. At least several different sides of Wicca's convoluted family tree can be traced to 19th-century literary Satanism, some forms of which had more in common with present-day Wicca than with present-day Satanism.

Wiccans are at pains to claim that it is only the intolerant Christian Right sites which have flooded the internet who try to make out the connections of Wicca and satanism.

Diane Vera continues:

My point here is not that Wiccans shouldn't use the words "witch", "coven", and "sabbat". My point is that if they do use these and other diabolical-witchcraft trappings, they should accept responsibility for the consequences. Wiccans certainly should not blame Satanists for Wicca's own public-relations difficulties, as some Wiccans do.

Good to hear that from the Enemy itself. There is almost an honesty to the Old Foe in that he goes about his business, undermining the Logos but merely disdaining the eclectic Wiccan who plays with fire without realizing what [usually] she is doing.

I never thought I'd ever cheer a satanist on but how about this from Diane?

Oddly enough, of the many Wicca-based forms of neo-Paganism, one of the most "Satanic" (in terms of 19th-century literary Satanism) is feminist Goddess religion, despite its frequent omission of even the "Horned God". See, for example, some of Mary Daly's writings. When it comes to inverting and parodying Christian symbolism, Daly's wordplay does it better than an old-fashioned Black Mass.

Daly also reclaims and venerates almost every demonized female category conceivable, from Furies to Hags. And let's not forget the many feminists who venerate Lilith, a Jewish folkloric near-equivalent of the Christian Satan. Lilith never made it to the status of a full-fledged anti-god, but otherwise her myth is almost identical to the Christian Satan myth: banished for her pride, she became a dreaded demon and was even blamed for people's sins, especially sexual ones.

Finally, she says:

In their attempts to dissociate themselves from Satanism, Wiccans have tended to distort their own history.

It was mentioned earlier that the danger in Wicca is playing with fire. The motif has been used in the world of letters for eons and it constitutes the basis of many films, e.g. the mumbo-jumbo Mummy series – awakening that which should not be awoken.

Watch Pyramids of Mars.

A faith healer in Russia told me specifically not to invoke certain names after I brought them up in conversation. These were names invoked in Wicca and though Wiccans are sucked into their own mumbo-jumbo mix of revised Egyptology, Celtic and other traditions, they really are playing with fire because they either know full-well whom they're invoking or else they are innocents abroad and that's a one-way road to satanism.

They might think that stone circles, dancing naked under the moon and ritual sex are cool things; they might think that it's some sort of reassertion of Old Celtic traditions; they might think that Stonehenge is not the sacrificial site it is but unearthed skeletons say otherwise.

Merle Severy, "The Celts," National Geographic (May 1977), pages 625-626, describes "the eve of Samhain... the start of the Celtic new year":

According to the Dinshenchas, a medieval collection of "the lore of prominent places, firstborn children were sacrificed before a great idol to ensure fertility of cattle and crops. Samhain eve was a night of dread and danger. At this juncture of the old year and the new, our world and the otherworld opened up to each other. The dead returned, ghosts and demons were abroad, and the future could be seen.. . .

Behind such Halloween games as bobbing for apples lie Celtic divination arts to discern who would marry, thrive, or die in the coming year. Behind the masks and mischief, the jack-o'lanterns and food offerings, lurk the fear of malevolent spirits and the rites to propitiate them.

The classical author Diodorus Siculus also reported scenes of human sacrifice [by the Druids]:

When they attempt divination upon important matters they practice a strange and incredible custom, for they kill a man by a knife-stab in the region above his midriff. After the sacrificial victim fell dead...they foretell the future by the convulsions of his limbs and the pouring of his blood. [Ancient Wisdom and Secret Sects (Alexandria, VA: Time-Life Books), pages 17-19.]

And what of the neo-pagan claim that the Celts did not go in for human sacrifices?

The 1984 discovery of a sacrificial victim in Cheshire, England, helps validate the reality of ritualistic human sacrifice. The well-preserved young man had apparently belonged to an elite social class in the second century BC. After two sharp blows to the head, he had been strangled. Then, like the countless sacrifices to Aztec and Mayan gods, his body had been drained of the human blood needed to please and appease their god(s).

... or this?

At Windmill Hill, near Avebury, Wiltshire, England, there are evidences of Druidical worship, but no windmill. 'Win' is the Celtic word for 'eye,' and 'Win-Melk' is the 'eye of Moloch.' Dr. Maurice, in "Indian Antiquities," says, "the Druids worshipped the sun under the title of Moloch, so we are certain that worship was derived to them from their Eastern ancestors."

The British towns Melch-bourne in Bedfordshire, and Melc-combe in Dorset, both retain evidence of the worship of Moloch in early times.

"And what have these sacrifices to do with us?" ask the Wiccans. Our religion is not based on Celtic rituals. Isn't that interesting because the Celts themselves say:

Like Wicca, and like the Celtic culture upon which it is based, modern Celtic paganism embodies a strong reverence for nature.

As for human sacrifice, if Wicca is indeed based on the old ways and they do claim that it is, that's what they're worshipping. They might like to think, in their sweet, love-everyone and mother nature way, that their religion is sanitized of the more gruesome aspects but the the spirits they're invoking think otherwise.

As this is a family blog, we shan't even mention the Wiccan use of menstrual blood in rituals and the particular way it's daubed about and consumed.

Beltane is also celebrated, by the way and this is based on Baal [Bel] of the sun, with that fiery Molochian aspect to it – orgies and human sacrifice being the order the day in the rituals but fire being the main motif. The Wiccan rituals don't involve this, they say - just the satanic ones.

Wiccans are also wont to say, ''One of Christianity's party lines is that the pagan religion of Wicca or witchcraft is what leads to Satanism. These pagans don't even believe in Satan!'' That's like saying, as one walks in the dark to the edge of an abyss, ''I don't believe in abysses.''

Some Wiccans and Neo-pagans may not be aware of the sinister traditions and associations of their religion, preferring to think it's just a nice naked romp and bonk in an oak grove and that they don't do any of this dark stuff [although it is claimed that some covens do] – it's Macavity again – never actually guilty but in the general area.

And who does Wicca and modern paganism in general suck in, today?

Accurate numbers are impossible to obtain because of the decentralized nature of the religion, and because most Wiccans remain underground for reasons of personal safety. Some poll data indicates that the numbers of adherents is doubling every 30 months. Wicca appears to be growing most rapidly among teens.

The most impressionable – of course.

The tragedy is not what modern pagans get up in their own groves and within their rings of stones but that their ideas now permeate world policy and rebound, by a cascade effect, on the greater population of the world.

In conclusion

Let's give the benefit of the doubt and accept that most Wiccans don't even know that their faith and tree-hugging has these more sinister aspects associated with it, which it does ... by definition. Occult means "hidden", doesn't it and these aspects are hidden? On the basis of their romps in the fields, they'd even say I'm evil or at a minimum - misguided, in broad-brushing all Wiccans in the same way.

Look, it's no different to the Masons and many other cults. The lower orders, the Blue Orders, let's borrow a term - just don't know what goes on above and how they're subtly directed. And yet the warning signs are there for those would see, for those open-eyed enough to find out.

Let's just say that all the associations of Wicca with satanic rituals are pure coincidence, that their scriptures, drawing heavily from the most distasteful aspects of the occult, are pure coincidence; let's just say that Wiccans are the most maligned group on the planet today, let's just concede all those things.

One thing I can tell you though is I'm not going to any field or grove with a group of robed Wiccans at night, for fear of ending up the Wicca Man, especially after this post. Call me superstitious and a malign influence - I'm not the taking the chance, given all of the above. And as for entrusting my child for babysitting ... well.


[sunday comfort] peace my children