Friday, July 20, 2007

[who governs] and why they're not benign


Another worthy but ultimately futile discussion of our situation, this time on terrorism, at one of my favourite blogs, Beaman's World.

The essential reasons such debate is futile and the reasons why we're heading for the new feudalism include:

1] While you truly believe that you are in a representative democracy, where your voice is actually acted upon, then the real forces driving the agenda are free to continue unfettered;

2] The real forces rely on the great mass of people reading, discussing and researching within a narrow pool of actuality - newspapers, journals, magazine articles, TV and radio programmes and tomes of wisdom of the great and not so great … but no further;

3] The humanistic life outlook tacitly embraced by the vast majority of westerners encourages them to feel that they're ultimately in control of their own destiny, which is patently false, as you'll see further down.

On the other hand, the man or woman with a strangely wired brain seeks and researches more laterally, unafraid to delve into "kook territory" and comes up with a different literature - less accessible but still accessible for all that.

The reason it's still accessible is that it's usually written up or posted sensationally by the weirdos whose investigative skills far surpass their reasoning or writing ability and so it's a simple thing to pick holes, debunk and mock, using catchcries to circumvent any real revelation which might have been thrown up. [Watch this post's comments section for the first commenter to say "conspiracy theory" although usually readers just skip over this sort of post.]

So I'm not going to get dragged into that stuff. Instead, here are some statements by people who really should have known what they were talking about and I challenge anyone to call these people "kooks" or "deluded":

# President Woodrow Wilson, in 1913, published "The New Freedom":

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

# It (the Great Depression) was not accidental, it was a carefully contrived occurrence. The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all. [Congressman Louis McFadden]

# The Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression by contracting the amount of currency in circulation by one third from 1929 to 1933. [Milton Friedman]

# History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance. [President James Madison]

# Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russian, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament , or a communist dictatorship.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All I have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. [Goering at the Nuremberg Trials]

# This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished. [Sir Denison Miller]

# Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When through the process of law the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers. [1924 U.S. Banker's Association Magazine]

# When you control opinion, as corporate America controls opinion in the United States by owning the media, you can make the (many) believe almost anything you want, and you can guide them. [Gore Vidal from 'The Golden Age'.]

# If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched. George H. W. Bush told a White House reporter. [This last is my weakest reference so feel free to ignore it.]

Here are links to some of my articles.

So, in the context of the above, terrorism per se, as discussed at Beaman's World, is merely a furphy, easily provoked and funded and in this dualistic attitude lies the real identity of the force driving the oncoming misery. Look into the eyes of the Janjaweed of the Sudan for further confirmation of this force.

The only question is wresting back control but I fear that the people are so fragmented and the driving force so in control that it's a forlorn hope.

10 comments:

  1. The whole issue makes my head ache - very interesting article though...

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  2. Yes, it is interesting. Thank you for linking to my blog. I'll get reading those links you've provided.

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  3. I'm so happy you weren't offended. It is food for thought though.

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  4. I agree with the general thrust of what you are saying here;
    The point is about control of resourc es. Democracy is not truly possible whilst we are controlled this way, we are like Pavlovian dogs.
    I don't think the Great Depression was contrived, I think it was something that ecnomist could forsee (it was predicted long before), but the Second World War enabled us to spend our way out of it and we have ben following this crazy strategy in one form or another ever since.
    The First World War was all about resources; it was about the German realisation that there was no place in the sun for Germany. (Follow the road to war. Notice who's troops crossed a border first- up until then, there was just a diplomatic crisis, the war guilt clause wasn't unjustifiable)
    Control can be wrested back, but it needs intelligent debate, good advocates for the message and the creation of a truly poular, truly global movement to acheive that.
    Nothing else will work.
    So it won't be easy.

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  5. James: Why is it you give opinions the full weight of truth?

    Each of the statements you list is the opinion of the man that made it, yet you blog and think that just because they say it, it is true. Their opinions on events may be important (to you or everyone) but they still are opinions. When you give them the stamp of fact, you do a disservice to yourself.

    CBI: True democracy is not possible PERIOD. No matter what you do, you will never and can never have a true democracy. Or do you think that minorities should have no rights? (as would happen in a true democracy where majority rule is all) [just one example]

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  6. James: Why is it you give opinions the full weight of truth?

    All knowledge is based on the opinions of people and some of those have been borne out by experience.

    Thus the man who gives his opinion on prime ministership when he has been one is like the professor of metallurgy who gives an opinion on metallurgy - one tends to believe what he says and continues to until such time as it is disproven in another age.

    When you're sick, the doctor offers a "second opinion". for most people, this is enough because these people have been involved in the area for years. But still it is opinion.

    This is the nature of knowledge.

    How did you gain your knowledge? You were either taught it at school or picked it up from some disseminator - a book, a TV programme or whatever.

    These are opinion. For example, the victor writes the hstory books. The feminists wrote the current ones.

    This is why, when doing a research, one quotes the author, title, date and publishing house. The world of knowledge is based on opinion in the end.

    You use the terms "the full weight of truth", as if truth is some mystic eternal verity divorced from opinion. Even the sayings of Jesus were his opinion.

    In the end, it's the integrity of our sources which counts and the way they are either confirmed or altered by experience over the centuries.

    Then we get close to this thing called truth.

    Until then, I give the very best opinions the full weight of truth.

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  7. No James, all opinions added together do not equal truth. There is such a thing as the truth (we may not ever know it, but that doesn't make it unreal).

    "Even the sayings of Jesus were his opinion."

    If you believe that Jesus is the Son of the Lord, then this statement is false. He was the Truth and as such not opinion.

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  8. No James, all opinions added together do not equal truth.

    They certainly don't. That's why I said: "Until then, I give the very BEST opinions the full weight of truth."

    Wouldn't you say that G-d's opinion is likely to be true? That's why I give it the full weight of truth.

    The thing is, m'lord, we're not really in disagreement at all but someone is trying to create that illusion. :)

    By the way, I saw you come in and went to my mailbox - it took you some time to think of a reply to my rubbish.

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  9. Chilling. I like your labels for this post, James. Since we are all up the proverbial creek and according to this there's nothing we can do about it, might as well go and have a g and t.

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  10. I came in more than once :) I was just passing through a lot of blogs at the time.

    G-d doesn't have opinions, they are Truths.

    And I didn't read/see/care(heh) where you wrote ""Until then, I give the very BEST opinions the full weight of truth.""

    But it still doesn't change the fact there is actual Truth and then there is Falsity :)

    Your quote about the stock exchange purposefully brought low is an opinion in a FACT that has a Truth.

    Like your writings on the opinion that the US will be turned over to the (can't remember the name of the NAU or whatever), this can be proven simply by time (unless you change the date when it doesn't happen). What I'm getting at (and doing a damn poor job of it) is trying to get you to see that just because they said it or wrote it, does not make it true (as you believe). But I'm not good at writing my thoughts, so one day when I can speak to you, we'll have this conversation. Perhaps with a drink or 2 (hehe).

    I'd love to sit and talk to almost every BP'er, but there are only 2 or 3 that I'd talk politics with.

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