[immigration] post reviewed, comments answered

This follows from an earlier thread which is now closed as of 15:44, Apr 24th.

Paul Kingsnorth alleges I have not answered his questions, which I quite clearly have. I like Paul's blog and he's now posted his 200th post. Congratulations! In any other circumstances, we might have got along well. Such a pity and I mean that.

Now, in the interests of fairness and so that Paul does not think I'm shirking the issue, I'll go over it all again. The rest of you just skip over this post if it's too boring. Let me go through the original post again, in short:

Entering the country

identified, assessed for quality by summary panels of local authorities and if found wanting - deported immediately, along with all members of the extended family

Reference to illegal aliens entering the country, not to anyone else.

be holding camps for assessment and these should be humane in nature

Again, illegal aliens, no one else.

entering a country should observe the adage: When in Rome, do as the Romans do

Anyone coming in - and what's wrong with that?

When they arrive, they promise to conform to the official religion, the political system and the social mores or else they don't get in.

Conform quite clearly means 'not to work to destroy'. It does not, as those who flew off the handle charge, have anything to do with Anglicanism per se or that they must support Tony Blair or whatever. This is wilfully taking the comment out of the spirit in which it is written. This post is about illegal aliens and those coming in who indulge in behaviour like race riots. That's what the post was always about.

Those now resident

primary purpose is to integrate with the society Any benefit to the immigrant which accrues from their new country is their own good fortune

And what? Any problem there?

loosely conform to those of the native inhabitants

The operative word was 'loosely', in other words, acting in a civilized manner. Again - and what?

Had to smile at the logic of one commenter who says 'there's no such thing as a British culture to conform to' and in the next breath, says: 'we don't do that over here'. Who doesn't? The non-existent Britisher? If there's no such thing as British culture, then there can be no such thing as the rule of law and order, characteristic of this country.

You can't have it both ways. Either we do do things a certain way 'over here' or we don't. If we do - then that's the culture I'm referring to.

2nd generation. - youth demonstrations - their whole extended family is under threat

This was the one which caused the trouble. It does not refer to wholesale deporting but simply what it says: "Under threat." This would be so without any words from me. If a young man had been up to something, of course the parents would be contacted by the police and of course the greater family would be involved, especially with cultures where the family is still important and the father/grandfather listened to.

street demonstrations

This, admittedly, was not explained well in the first post but later was explained in the comments and the 2nd post - it's referring to race riots, pure and simple. This might be the point on which we genuinely fall out because I do take a strong line on these.

bi-monthly, interviews

Meaning once every two months and only in the case of those who are stirring up trouble.

Misrepresentation

Nowhere was I referring to the ordinary citizen - the whole post was motivated by immigrants who come in and abuse the privilege of being here.

So bloggers' wives and friends and girlfriends have zero to do with the post. No one's referring to deporting a 2nd generation wife to Leamington Spa or whatever. This is absolute tosh and was neither stated, suggested, intimated or in any way could be construed from the post.

Other aspects of Commenters' comments which need to be addressed

Higham is a racist.

Surely, 'previous' counts for something here. Having had a Jamaican girlfriend, a Jamaican best mate from New Cross, a Serbian wife and curently a S.O. who is Muslim, I can't really see how this constitutes racism. Against which particular race is this alleged?

Higham is anti-Muslim

For goodness sake - I work for and with the Muslims every day. I've just come home from them now. I don't recall any charges of being anti-Muslim today.

These charges just don't wash. If I was some sort of White Supremacist, well maybe. But I'm not and most of the readership and all those over here know that.

Now I'm only going to take one of Paul's charges and address it because his whole behaviour in ths matter is just too tiresome for words. Paul said:

'Extreme measures were not what was being discussed'?!?!? Deporting ther children of immigrants?

Note the punctuation used. This is arguing from raw emotion, not from logic. No Paul, deporting the children of immigrants was being discussed by you and one or two others. Not by me.

Once again, look at the one above: 2nd generation. - youth demonstrations - their whole extended family is under threat and my explanatory paragraph.

Now it's my turn. I charge that you, Paul Kingsnorth and to a lesser extent others in certain places, have wilfully misconstrued a post, twisted it to your own prejudices and introduced elements or made assumptions which just weren't there.

However, unlike you, I don't give a toss about your attempted character assassination, as it is based on nothing more than bilge. Personally, I like your blog and plan to continue to visit it.

If that is 'bizarre', as you termed it, Paul, then so be it.