Tuesday, February 05, 2008

4. The situation in France

1. Sovereignty in this country 2. Legal reasons we can leave right now 3. The principle of prerogative 4. The situation in France 5. Masterly inactivity and executive action 6. It's all about culture, not race

Forget the rhetoric, forget politicking. Here is what happened in France on 29 May 2005:

A referendum was held in France to decide whether the country should ratify the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe. The result was a victory for the "No" campaign, with 55% of voters rejecting the treaty on a turnout of 69%.
The question put to voters was:

Approuvez-vous le projet de loi qui autorise la ratification du traité établissant une Constitution pour l'Europe ? "Do you approve the bill authorising the ratification of the treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe?"
Is there some way you can explain to me how this constitutes a legitimate mandate from the people to set up the EU as a state? By what legal terminology can this mean that the people voted Yes?

Here is what happened over these few days now:
Today, France’s deputies and senators meeting in Parliament in Versailles ratified by a vote of 560 to 181 the constitutional revision to allow the ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon without the need for a referendum. The result of this voting opens the way for the final ratification, Thursday, first at the National Assembly, then the Senate. Out of 893 present, 741 voted. France is the 5th country after Hungary, Slovenia, Romania and Malta to ratify the Lisbon Treaty, in which they sign their sovereignty away.
I take issue with only one semantic point. France did not sign away its rights, if by France you mean the French people. They voted 55% No. Their political leaders did sign away their sovereignty and in national terms, that constitutes high treason, which Wiki defines this way:
High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's country.
Please explain how a clearly expressed view of a national people being deliberately ignored in the creation of a new state at the behest of another nationality does not constitute high treason?

Britain has been treated the same way.

8 comments:

  1. Agreed -- one can well imagine what someone like DK would think...

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  2. Well, if they're ratifying a revision of it it's a different matter. They're not behaving honourably, just politically.

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  3. Welcome back, James ;)
    I've been mulling over a lot of detail during the quiet time.

    I only learned today that the presidential order to invade Afghanistan was signed on 9/10, the day before 9/11.

    We seem to agree that this is the local part of a much larger game, and getting the details of this game is difficult.
    Different characters seem to have different agendas.
    But then they seem to mesh.

    I watched the Paxman show on BBC last night.2 interviewees held the opinion that public opinion of politicians had never been lower. This seemed to surprise Paxman. That tells a story!
    Late on Feb 4th, al-beeb news was still spinning the story that brown was not aware of the bugging until recently, when we all saw DD's letter of 16th Dec, 07.
    This is characteristic of the way we are consistently lied to.
    The word used to Paxman to describe public view of politicians was that they were incandescent with rage and frustration.

    I'm gonna try to put together a long one on the overall picture, in the near future.
    In the meantime, if you haven't got it already, here is a full list of Bilderberg attendance

    http://www.infowars.com/images2/nwo/bilderberg/bbg_list_page_01.jpg

    http://www.infowars.com/images2/nwo/bilderberg/bbg_list_page_02.jpg

    http://www.infowars.com/images2/nwo/bilderberg/bbg_list_page_03.jpg

    http://www.infowars.com/images2/nwo/bilderberg/bbg_list_page_04.jpg

    http://www.infowars.com/images2/nwo/bilderberg/bbg_list_page_05.jpg

    http://www.infowars.com/images2/nwo/bilderberg/bbg_list_page_06.jpg

    I'm short on time so I won't do the ahref thang.

    Click on the pictures to enlarge them. (slightly)

    Hope you are running a good data-base on all this stuff, well backed up of course.
    Gotta go.

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  4. Welshcakes - they are ignoring an official plebiscite. Do you really think changing one or two words makes it any less a treaty?

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  5. Happens all the time; lots of politicians ignore the will of the people. Who is going to tell them they can't, unless people can throw them out when they do that sort of thing?

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  6. European politicians are choosing to act in their own interests, the EU is a trough they all have their noses in, the problem is endemic, so they know it's hard to make them accountable. And the EU makes the problem endemic by enticing them with the overflowing trough.

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  7. Fascinating !
    For another great take on the Treaty of Versailles and the background of the European Union, as well as the Treaty's frightening consequences for the subsequent decades, do have a look at my wonderful new book, "A Shattered Peace: Versailles 1919 and the Price We Pay Today" [ www.shatteredpeace.com ] ... available through Amazon and most bookstores !
    All the best,
    David A. Andelman
    david@ashatteredpeace.com

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