Thursday, November 08, 2007

[racism 2] sexism, ageism, every -ism under the sun

I'd like to thrash this thing out once and for all, if you don't mind because there is some very woolly-headed thinking going about.

1. There's a certain type of political thinking which likes everything to be nice and luvvy-duvvy and everyone tolerant of everyone else until someone differs from them and then they turn nasty and want that person banned, excluded, legislated against, prosecuted and incarcerated, on the grounds of breaking some new law they've managed to get in place in the past few years.

If they've had any success in doing this, they become emboldened and it becomes like a narcotic until finally they set up regular weekly meetings to look for someone else to legislate against this week. Education is infested with such as these.

These people can get knotted.

2. There's a certain type of thinking which is hyper-sensitive to buzz words so that if I attack someone for his stupid comments, this is fine as long as he's a heterosexual, male WASP but the instant the person attacked turns out to be feminist, homosexual, black or Muslim, the attack is automatically labelled sexist, anti-gay, racist or anti-Muslim, when it had zero to do with that and everything to do with the shoddy argument or behaviour in the first place.

This person hides behind and invokes the group association and says anything he damn well likes, knowing he can thereby vilify and label the detractor and send him to Coventry [sorry to those from that fine city].

These people in N2 can also get knotted.

3. There's a certain type of thinking which makes no distinction between the individual and the group. One Romani kills an Italian woman so all Romanis are labelled and by association – all Romanians too.

Works the other way as well. Evil nutters like Al Qaeda and Deobanda spread their poison and all Muslims get labelled. Most Muslims I know are not like that.

But the religion itself is most certainly open to that interpretation and nasty groups, generally male but not exclusively, operate under the Muslim banner and these are people whom most Muslims would disown, e.g. at Beslan.

To answer that Christians kill each other in Ireland is transferring the argument from what the text condones to what the perpetrator does.

The woolly-headed thinking which equates faith with its devotees makes no distinction between the hard working immigrant who comes over to improve his lot and work hard to get there – and a clear nutter who is using a scriptural text as a pretext for violence.

Harder to do that with Christianity – can you find a New Testament text which exhorts violence? This is completely different to a group calling itself something and carrying out violence in its name.

This latter type can get knotted.

4. There is also a mealy-mouthed, malcontented, ne'er-do-well group-think among many groups of many orientations and causes which is forever playing the martyr and trying to either push an alien culture and alien ways of treating everyday affairs onto the majority.

A spin-off of this behaviour is that they form ghettos and then proceed to dictate to the indigenous population. They set up their own schools which preach values opposite to those of the host country.

In my book, this behaviour is right out. The standard reply that Christian schools should also be banned in Britain is total bunkum because Christianity is the religion of tradition in Britain and the Commonwealth and providing the teaching doesn't incite either violence or sexual exploitation [both punishable in any country in which the government is secular], then it is not out of line with the country's antecedents.

And that's the test. A secular test with no -isms attached and here it is in summary:
a. violence;
b. sexual exploitation;
c. values contrary to those embraced on the statute books over the last century, [before that are some pretty draconian ones] ...
So if the person who entered Italy and killed that woman made it into the country already because of the lax immigration laws, then he should get due process in regular courts, as an individual and if found guilty – sent to St Helena or similar. Elba perhaps.

Or a new one. Australia already has such an island – it's in Westernport Bay but I've forgotten its name.

Plus one more thing:
d. this applies to immigrants or visitors. Natives would follow standard due process, as laid down pre-Blair.
Now of course this deportation to an island has historical horror attached to it. Transportation to Australia in the 1780s and 90s springs to mind plus Guantanamo and similar. We're actually trying to stop the government building these internment camps, not shifting them offshore but there is a difference.

We want no internment camps for any British nationals on any grounds other than a-c above and even for immigrants and visitors there should be due process, not summary arrest. We're between a rock and a hard place here.

Do nothing and put a blanket ban on the government arresting anyone at all and crims run free. Allow it for some and it's the thin edge of the wedge. But on the grounds quoted above and no others, it might work if a non-treasonable government were in power.

As long as we have a traitor to Britain currently in power in Westminster, well, nothing can really be achieved.

7 comments:

  1. Don't try to be too prescriptive, James, or you'll fall into the trap that the current left wing pc brigade have fallen into, courtesy of the hidden agenda, and arguments you clearly expose.

    Appoint independent, qualified, apolitical judges, and let the evolution of case law take its course

    Worked well so far.

    Existing constitution is fine, it needs NO tampering.

    Access may need easing though.

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  2. Helps if the state can get a handle on immigration, and set rules for admittance.

    Such will not happen.

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  3. Part of the UK's problem is that the Gov keeps pandering to minority interests, be they immigrant or the indigenous. There really is no need, one law for all, applied equally and enforced properly, is the only solution. Part of this pandering is down to professional apologists to parasite themselves on minority groups, part of it is certain groups believing that they should be given some sort of special treatment because of their circumstances. All of it is total nonsense.

    Some people may be at greater risk of attack than others, but they don't need any special protection, they just need the protection that's for everyone to work properly. As you point out suggesting that because someone belongs to a certain group means they somehow get some sort of automatic extra protection because they belong to that group is flawed.

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  4. Hmm.. Well, I'm with you on who can get knotted. And I can't tell you the number of times I've seen, in education, an ethnic minority person appointed simply because the interviewing body has been afraid of being accused of discrimination if they did otherwise. This kind of attitude has done nobody any good. I agree that there are groups who try to dictate to and impose their values on the host society and in Britian I fear we are realising this too late. I see what you mean about Christian schools but I don't see why they are necessary IF the Christian calendar and Christian values are taught in mainstream schools [which they should be because that is our country's culture and I say this as an agnostic]. Did you know that there are Muslims in Italy who are objecting to the crucifix that is on the wall in every classroom? My answer to that would be the same as yours, I guess - don't come to a Catholic country, then. The labelling of everyone in a certain group as terrorist or having terrorist tendencies is a problem and I feel for moderate Muslims. I also agree with you about the NT. Gosh, I am agreeing with you on nearly everything! - But have you ever been to ELba? It's a beautiful island, or it was when I was last there. And I think calling GB a "traitor to Britain " is a bit strong but I guess you mean the EU again.

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  5. Two anons - yes.

    mjw - agree completely.

    Welsh;

    I don't see why they are necessary IF the Christian calendar and Christian values are taught in mainstream schools...

    Yes.

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  6. I'm slightly on the fence here.
    Certainly, I'd prefer children of my own brought up in a school of my own faith.

    By the same token, I understand parents of other faiths who feel the same.

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  7. What gets me is that if you want to emigrate to another country then assimilate, which means accepting the life style and traditions of THAT country. Not going to THAT country and trying to turn it into a preferred version of their homeland , minus whatever problems caused them to want to leave in the first place.

    If most schools in Britain , for Ex, are Christian that's what tax payers get for their tax dollars.If they want schooling for their children (of different religions) then they should have to pay for it. Simple.

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