tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post8659911666785528189..comments2024-03-28T21:28:11.465+00:00Comments on nourishing obscurity: [abortion] the right becomes the normJames Highamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-23948074633729203242008-10-04T03:07:00.000+01:002008-10-04T03:07:00.000+01:00A woman has to have control over her body,period. ...A woman has to have control over her body,period. It's not a matter for the Government to impose their will/bill on.<BR/><BR/>Pro choice is not pro abortion necessarily , James. It's pro a woman having control over her ovaries.<BR/><BR/>Personally, if one wants to legislate abortion then one must also look at legislating how many children men,especially ones how do not support, should be allowed to bring into this world.<BR/>THEN the male dominated Government would get out of the bedrooms of the nation.UBERMOUTHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15428848028109037855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-80485356009041707742008-10-02T11:27:00.000+01:002008-10-02T11:27:00.000+01:00The issue isn't black and white. Even with the lim...The issue isn't black and white. Even with the limit at 24 weeks, there are a lot of shades of grey.<BR/><BR/>I am generally of the opinion that person best placed to make the decision is also the person who has the right to make the decision - the woman.<BR/><BR/>xD.Dave Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14607982331690895063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-61449719530410171382008-10-01T17:35:00.000+01:002008-10-01T17:35:00.000+01:00Pro-choice describes the political and ethical vie...<I>Pro-choice describes the political and ethical view that a woman should have complete control over her fertility and pregnancy. This entails the guarantee of reproductive rights, which includes access to sexual education; access to safe and legal abortion, contraception, and fertility treatments; and legal protection from forced abortion. Individuals and organizations who support these positions make up the pro-choice movement.<BR/><BR/>Some people who are pro-choice see abortion as a last resort and focus on a number of situations where they feel abortion is a necessary option. Among these situations are those where the woman was raped, her health or life (or that of the fetus) is at risk, contraception was used but failed, or she feels unable to raise a child. Some pro-choice moderates, who would otherwise be willing to accept certain restrictions on abortion, feel that political pragmatism compels them to oppose any such restrictions, as they could be used to form a slippery slope against all abortions.</I><BR/><BR/>I think I fall into the last resort category personally but even more restrictive than this definition.jmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563252743976699923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-13500302606011894772008-10-01T15:37:00.000+01:002008-10-01T15:37:00.000+01:00was following the thread...I understand pro-choice...was following the thread...<BR/>I understand pro-choice and pro-life in the same terms as you say, James Higham<BR/>thanks!Devika Jyothihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349153846127145464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-18003422764643228672008-10-01T12:42:00.000+01:002008-10-01T12:42:00.000+01:00Pro-choice is a euphemism for pro-abortion, isn't ...Pro-choice is a euphemism for pro-abortion, isn't it? Excuse the ignorance. Pro-life is letting babies live, no?James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-29640086754668266812008-10-01T08:14:00.000+01:002008-10-01T08:14:00.000+01:00Ubermouth, I have thought through the issue over m...Ubermouth, I have thought through the issue over many years and as I said I could not do it myself. The instances you have stated would not change my mind. The one instance in fact that might have changed my mind would be a very serious medical issue but down's syndrome would not fall under that category. <BR/><BR/>But you will note I said I am pro choice so how is that judgmental?jmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563252743976699923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-1073829602101741342008-09-30T20:16:00.000+01:002008-09-30T20:16:00.000+01:00To JMB- I think that you have clearly not thought ...To JMB- I think that you have clearly not thought of the issue.<BR/>You make a sweeping statement that you could never do it, but what if you were raped?<BR/>What if , after your children grew up, and your husband was dead against another child- you got pregnant at 50, when you just did not have the energy to start all over again?<BR/>People, when presented with such choices, find they can do things they never thought possible, so don't be so judgemental. :)UBERMOUTHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15428848028109037855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-77901312174227093552008-09-30T20:12:00.000+01:002008-09-30T20:12:00.000+01:00I think this is like any legilation, whereby if tw...I think this is like any legilation, whereby if two acts contradict each other-like the right to freedo of speech and expression versus inciting hate crimes- one has to give precedence to the act/law/right which most favours society as a whole.<BR/><BR/>I doubt any woman is casual about an abortion, or sees it as a fall back which makes being responsible less of an issue.<BR/><BR/>I consider it 'murder' but it would more deplorable that women have no control over the reproductive lives, being forced to carry children they do not want,can't deal with, especially when the circumstances of the conception may be less than pleasant-IE rape, incest, etc.UBERMOUTHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15428848028109037855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-14270765249423185532008-09-30T17:48:00.000+01:002008-09-30T17:48:00.000+01:00As with so many moral questions, it is not black a...As with so many moral questions, it is not black and white. While I could never do it myself, once you have had a child I don't see how any woman can do it, except for medical reasons, I am pro choice on the whole. <BR/><BR/>To go back to the days when women did it anyway, in unsafe conditions with unqualified people or to put doctors into the position of being criminals if they do perform abortions is not acceptable. <BR/><BR/>But I do think it is an option too freely available and chosen and it certainly is allowable at far too advanced a stage of pregnancy.jmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563252743976699923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-12435449636920790962008-09-30T10:36:00.000+01:002008-09-30T10:36:00.000+01:00Thanks, ladies.Thanks, ladies.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-79721927069094990342008-09-30T07:35:00.000+01:002008-09-30T07:35:00.000+01:00Abortion right is indeed a dilemma..can't agree wi...Abortion right is indeed a dilemma..can't agree with you more on those points you made clear...and pondering on those you left vague..<BR/>thanks!<BR/><BR/>btw, I am a new face at Bloghounds and a relatively new blogger from India with blogs on Socio-political news and poetry/general writing...<BR/><BR/>I wish you would come over when you have time..It will be a pleasure to greet you at my online home..<BR/><BR/>see you again, <BR/>devikaDevika Jyothihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349153846127145464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31655026.post-56066585667138099862008-09-29T21:56:00.000+01:002008-09-29T21:56:00.000+01:00I find myself agreeing with all your points here. ...I find myself agreeing with all your points here. I also think that the decision to have an abortion will have a lasting emotional effect which I suspect will always remain.CherryPiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11788084724907992076noreply@blogger.com